FFD map cleanup

[Peterie 93]

Poll is now closed, scroll down or click this link for results.

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Hello everyone,

As you may have noticed, the maplist on the FFD server is pretty long. Therefore we want to make it a lot smaller.
We would like to ask you to vote on which maps you want to keep and which ones you would like to see removed.

How does this work:
1. Go to this link
2. Duplicate the template.
3. Rename it and put your name on it.
4. Protect sheet
5. Cast your votes by putting an "x" under keep, remove or undecided.

Polls will be closed at the 1st of july.

[Thomas 312]

Could you post a results table here when they are in?

[Peterie 93]

Poll is now closed.

Alright results!!

we have 18 ppl who voted. Not everyone voted on every map. Also, undecided is counted as not voted on that map and therefore not counted in the % keep.

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#	Map	Keep	Remove	Undecided	# Votes	% Keep	>50%?
1	TO-(Offi)-ScoutV2	0	13	5	18	0%	FALSE
21	TO-8PK-Splash	0	14	2	16	0%	FALSE
31	TO-AoT_Arheology	0	9	5	14	0%	FALSE
33	TO-Bajesus	0	12	4	16	0%	FALSE
42	TO-Chrisis	0	11	4	15	0%	FALSE
43	TO-Collision]xx[	0	9	6	15	0%	FALSE
58	TO-FortWreck	0	12	3	15	0%	FALSE
65	TO-Karaganda	0	9	6	15	0%	FALSE
67	TO-LostCastle	0	10	5	15	0%	FALSE
83	TO-PsY-FastBattle	0	15	2	17	0%	FALSE
86	TO-Reactor-Sector_6	0	10	5	15	0%	FALSE
96	TO-Supertramp2Final	0	9	6	15	0%	FALSE
97	TO-SweDalgSniper3-BF	0	11	4	15	0%	FALSE
99	TO-TOPF	0	12	3	15	0%	FALSE
102	TO-TerrorCampBS	0	10	5	15	0%	FALSE
111	TO-Troja	0	13	2	15	0%	FALSE
124	TO-[VAS]-Lego_Sonic_Scope	0	12	3	15	0%	FALSE
24	TO-=FoE=Valley	1	15	0	16	6%	FALSE
82	TO-PsY-EatBullets	1	15	1	17	6%	FALSE
22	TO-=FoE=EatBullets	1	14	1	16	7%	FALSE
79	TO-PsY-BulletsAndRocks	1	14	2	17	7%	FALSE
81	TO-PsY-Cold-Trooper	1	14	2	17	7%	FALSE
84	TO-PsY-SmallBlisterPlusV2	1	14	2	17	7%	FALSE
7	TO-2-Alpia	1	13	3	17	7%	FALSE
19	TO-8PK-Crazytomb	1	13	2	16	7%	FALSE
40	TO-Blocks3	1	13	2	16	7%	FALSE
100	TO-TTOCDISKO	1	13	1	15	7%	FALSE
26	TO-AlmaV2	1	12	2	15	8%	FALSE
118	TO-WaterfallAOT	1	12	2	15	8%	FALSE
77	TO-Palermo	1	11	3	15	8%	FALSE
88	TO-SUICIDE][R0CK	1	11	3	15	8%	FALSE
107	TO-TheUnforgiven	1	11	3	15	8%	FALSE
123	TO-[VAS]-Just_Another_Drought	1	11	3	15	8%	FALSE
49	TO-DesertFight	1	10	4	15	9%	FALSE
53	TO-EscapePoint	1	10	4	15	9%	FALSE
64	TO-KS-MineOverP1	1	10	4	15	9%	FALSE
72	TO-OAP-NuTrain	1	9	4	14	10%	FALSE
104	TO-Th-Pentagonsecrets	1	9	5	15	10%	FALSE
10	TO-2-Bridge	2	13	1	16	13%	FALSE
11	TO-2-Brokenfaith	2	13	1	16	13%	FALSE
80	TO-PsY-Cold-Mountain	2	13	2	17	13%	FALSE
18	TO-2-Toscana	2	12	2	16	14%	FALSE
37	TO-BellaItalia	2	11	3	16	15%	FALSE
75	TO-OldFactory	2	11	3	16	15%	FALSE
115	TO-UrbanCenters	2	11	2	15	15%	FALSE
73	TO-OK-BoilingDay	2	10	3	15	17%	FALSE
92	TO-SpaceBase	2	10	4	16	17%	FALSE
94	TO-Stalingrad	2	10	4	16	17%	FALSE
105	TO-ThaHood	2	10	3	15	17%	FALSE
109	TO-Timberwork	2	9	4	15	18%	FALSE
120	TO-X-Aiming	2	9	4	15	18%	FALSE
113	TO-Trooper-SnowBase	3	13	0	16	19%	FALSE
9	TO-2-Arena	3	12	2	17	20%	FALSE
16	TO-2-Equinox	3	11	2	16	21%	FALSE
50	TO-Desk2	3	11	2	16	21%	FALSE
44	TO-Colloseum	3	10	3	16	23%	FALSE
117	TO-Virtue	3	10	2	15	23%	FALSE
122	TO-X-RMSTitanic	3	10	3	16	23%	FALSE
3	TO-007--Facility	4	13	1	18	24%	FALSE
36	TO-BattleAxe	4	13	1	18	24%	FALSE
35	TO-BarchAtmon	3	9	3	15	25%	FALSE
70	TO-MoneyTrain	3	9	3	15	25%	FALSE
89	TO-SandySoil	3	9	3	15	25%	FALSE
91	TO-SniperFight	3	9	4	16	25%	FALSE
125	TO-_-IceVille	3	9	3	15	25%	FALSE
126	TO-_-OldPharao	3	9	4	16	25%	FALSE
56	TO-FallFallFall	5	13	0	18	28%	FALSE
2	TO-007--Complex	4	10	4	18	29%	FALSE
15	TO-2-Crossmaglen	4	10	2	16	29%	FALSE
55	TO-Fairytale	4	9	2	15	31%	FALSE
20	TO-8PK-Snipomp	5	11	0	16	31%	FALSE
23	TO-=FoE=Trooper	5	11	1	17	31%	FALSE
78	TO-Poolparty-1v1	5	11	2	18	31%	FALSE
29	TO-AoT-DrugHarbor2	5	10	1	16	33%	FALSE
68	TO-MetalStorm	6	11	1	18	35%	FALSE
25	TO-AbandonedVillage3	5	9	2	16	36%	FALSE
95	TO-Stock	5	9	1	15	36%	FALSE
12	TO-2-Chicago	6	9	2	17	40%	FALSE
4	TO-007--Stack	7	10	1	18	41%	FALSE
101	TO-TearsOfSun	6	8	2	16	43%	FALSE
13	TO-2-Chiesa	7	9	0	16	44%	FALSE
34	TO-BankersHours	7	9	0	16	44%	FALSE
5	TO-1-L7N-Training	7	8	2	17	47%	FALSE
6	TO-1-TrooperReMiX	9	8	0	17	53%	TRUE
45	TO-Conundrum	9	8	1	18	53%	TRUE
57	TO-Forge	9	8	1	18	53%	TRUE
116	TO-Verdon	8	7	0	15	53%	TRUE
121	TO-X-Baxtown	7	6	2	15	54%	TRUE
32	TO-Avalanche	9	7	1	17	56%	TRUE
76	TO-Omega	10	7	0	17	59%	TRUE
87	TO-Rebirth	9	6	2	17	60%	TRUE
61	TO-GlasgowKiss	8	5	3	16	62%	TRUE
63	TO-IcyBreeze	10	6	2	18	63%	TRUE
17	TO-2-Slowwater	11	6	1	18	65%	TRUE
66	TO-KnightsEdge-B1	10	5	3	18	67%	TRUE
59	TO-FrozenScar	11	5	0	16	69%	TRUE
54	TO-Eskero	12	5	0	17	71%	TRUE
71	TO-November-Rain	12	5	1	18	71%	TRUE
98	TO-TOON_TOWN	12	5	1	18	71%	TRUE
48	TO-DeagleEgypt	10	4	2	16	71%	TRUE
74	TO-Oilrig	10	4	2	16	71%	TRUE
114	TO-Unbreakable	10	4	2	16	71%	TRUE
27	TO-AoT-Aztekv2	13	5	0	18	72%	TRUE
69	TO-Monastery	13	5	0	18	72%	TRUE
62	TO-HIDDEN_VILLAGE	11	4	1	16	73%	TRUE
8	TO-2-Ambush	13	4	1	18	76%	TRUE
93	TO-Spynet	10	3	3	16	77%	TRUE
14	TO-2-Cold	14	4	0	18	78%	TRUE
38	TO-Blaze-of-Glory	12	3	1	16	80%	TRUE
103	TO-TerrorMansion	13	3	0	16	81%	TRUE
39	TO-Blister	14	3	0	17	82%	TRUE
46	TO-Crossfire	15	3	0	18	83%	TRUE
52	TO-Drought	15	3	0	18	83%	TRUE
106	TO-Thanassos	12	2	2	16	86%	TRUE
110	TO-Trainstation	12	2	2	16	86%	TRUE
119	TO-WinterRansom	12	2	2	16	86%	TRUE
108	TO-Thunderball	13	2	1	16	87%	TRUE
47	TO-Deagle5v12	15	1	1	17	94%	TRUE
90	TO-Scope	15	1	0	16	94%	TRUE
30	TO-AoT-Italy_nobug	16	1	0	17	94%	TRUE
41	TO-CIA	17	1	0	18	94%	TRUE
51	TO-Dragon	17	1	0	18	94%	TRUE
60	TO-Getaway	17	1	0	18	94%	TRUE
85	TO-Rapidwaters	17	1	0	18	94%	TRUE
28	TO-AoT-BombingDust2	16	0	0	16	100%	TRUE
112	TO-Trooper	18	0	0	18	100%	TRUE

For now it looks like we can go with the 50% and higher will stay. This will give us 43 maps to play with and 83 maps to be removed.

Maps to be removed:

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TO-(Offi)-ScoutV2
TO-007—Complex
TO-007—Facility
TO-007—Stack
TO-1-L7N-Training
TO-2-Alpia
TO-2-Arena
TO-2-Bridge
TO-2-Brokenfaith
TO-2-Chicago
TO-2-Chiesa
TO-2-Crossmaglen
TO-2-Equinox
TO-2-Toscana
TO-8PK-Crazytomb
TO-8PK-Snipomp
TO-8PK-Splash
TO-=FoE=EatBullets
TO-=FoE=Trooper
TO-=FoE=Valley
TO-AbandonedVillage3
TO-AlmaV2
TO-AoT-DrugHarbor2
TO-AoT_Arheology
TO-Bajesus
TO-BankersHours
TO-BarchAtmon
TO-BattleAxe
TO-BellaItalia
TO-Blocks3
TO-Chrisis
TO-Collision]xx[
TO-Colloseum
TO-DesertFight
TO-Desk2
TO-EscapePoint
TO-Fairytale
TO-FallFallFall
TO-FortWreck
TO-KS-MineOverP1
TO-Karaganda
TO-LostCastle
TO-MetalStorm
TO-MoneyTrain
TO-OAP-NuTrain
TO-OK-BoilingDay
TO-OldFactory
TO-Palermo
TO-Poolparty-1v1
TO-PsY-BulletsAndRocks
TO-PsY-Cold-Mountain
TO-PsY-Cold-Trooper
TO-PsY-EatBullets
TO-PsY-FastBattle
TO-PsY-SmallBlisterPlusV2
TO-Reactor-Sector_6
TO-SUICIDE][R0CK
TO-SandySoil
TO-SniperFight
TO-SpaceBase
TO-Stalingrad
TO-Stock
TO-Supertramp2Final
TO-SweDalgSniper3-BF
TO-TOPF
TO-TTOCDISKO
TO-TearsOfSun
TO-TerrorCampBS
TO-Th-Pentagonsecrets
TO-ThaHood
TO-TheUnforgiven
TO-Timberwork
TO-Troja
TO-Trooper-SnowBase
TO-UrbanCenters
TO-Virtue
TO-WaterfallAOT
TO-X-Aiming
TO-X-RMSTitanic
TO-[VAS]-Just_Another_Drought
TO-[VAS]-Lego_Sonic_Scope
TO-_-IceVille
TO-_-OldPharao

Maps which will stay:

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TO-1-TrooperReMiX
TO-2-Ambush
TO-2-Cold
TO-2-Slowwater
TO-AoT-Aztekv2
TO-AoT-BombingDust2
TO-AoT-Italy_nobug
TO-Avalanche
TO-Blaze-of-Glory
TO-Blister
TO-CIA
TO-Conundrum
TO-Crossfire
TO-Deagle5v12
TO-DeagleEgypt
TO-Dragon
TO-Drought
TO-Eskero
TO-Forge
TO-FrozenScar
TO-Getaway
TO-GlasgowKiss
TO-HIDDEN_VILLAGE
TO-IcyBreeze
TO-KnightsEdge-B1
TO-Monastery
TO-November-Rain
TO-Oilrig
TO-Omega
TO-Rapidwaters
TO-Rebirth
TO-Scope
TO-Spynet
TO-TOON_TOWN
TO-TerrorMansion
TO-Thanassos
TO-Thunderball
TO-Trainstation
TO-Trooper
TO-Unbreakable
TO-Verdon
TO-WinterRansom
TO-X-Baxtown

There have also been a lot of comments for improvements :). Some are bugs, some are opinions. Comments like, "this maps sucks", "I hate this map" will be ignored.

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Bugs:

• TO-2-Cold: Some bug makes this map crash a lot
• TO-2-Crossmaglen: Bugged map, players can bug too easy on this map.
• TO-Chrisis: Spawn is bugged.
• TO-OldFactory: Players may get a mismatch when this map is loaded.
• TO-AoT-BombingDust2: Spawn is bugged, needs to be bigger.
• TO-2-Alpia: Download is bugged and takes a very long time
• TO-BankersHours: Buyzone is bugged, spawnzone > buyzone.
• TO-_-OldPharao: Bugged map
• TO-Fairytale: Texture mismatch
• TO-Troja: Buyzone failure

Opinions:

• TO-BattleAxe: Make it DE+MSG only
• TO-DeagleEgypt: Make it DE+MSG only
• TO-TOON_TOWN: Make it DE+MSG only
• TO-Scope: Marty wants a 24/7 scope server
• TO-Monastery: Map needs an easier objective, T sided in public
• TO-AoT-Italy_nobug: Heighten the roofs so nades can't be thrown over to both the SF exits anymore. In CS this is not possible. Or remove nades.
• TO-2-Slowwater: Horribly SF sided.
• TO-Trainstation: SF sided (in public)
• TO-Scope: Remove the hossie on the side to make it possible in public to do the objective.
• TO-Rapidwaters: Remove hossies, put in a hacking panel.
• TO-1-L7N-Training: DE only, remove shotty and MSG. (It was already without nades).
• TO-1-TrooperReMiX: Remove the HP room.

Then there are some maps which are considered as too big by some players and may therefore be suited for a remake:

• TO-Unbreakable
• TO-Verdon
• TO-SpaceBase
• TO-Monastery
• TO-MetalStorm
• TO-IcyBreeze
• TO-GlasgowKiss
• TO-FrozenScar
• TO-Forge
• TO-(Offi)-ScoutV2
• TO-Conundrum
• TO-Reactor-Sector_6

 

[^Makuba^ 0]

You can say how maps remove and the others stay?

[Peterie 93]

10 minutes ago, ^Makuba^ said:

You can say how maps remove and the others stay?

You mean technically? Then we just take a look at Thomas, smile and ask politely. Thomas, will you please remove these maps? I have no idea how setting up a server actually works :P.

For the rest, we asked the community to vote. So I hope this poll is representative for the community as a whole. (although I doubt whether some people will be pleased to see stack removed)

[MARTY 24]

24 minutes ago, Peterie said:

TO-Scope: Marty wants a 24/7 scope server

One can always dream.

In all seriousness, this cleanup looks good! Still find it funny that somehow MetalStorm is the only original map that is below the 50% boundary. Wish BattleAxe had more stay votes, it's a pretty fun DE&MSG map. The removal of Stack is the best thing about all this.

[sullivaN. 9]

My compliments Peter!

[Thomas 312]

1 hour ago, Peterie said:

You mean technically? Then we just take a look at Thomas, smile and ask politely. Thomas, will you please remove these maps?

Don't forget to lower your hat in humbleness and form a decent pair of puppy eyes. Without that there's just no way. 

The cleanup will commence tonight, so now is your last opportunity to play Stack which we all so very much adore. C'mon, admit it, it's your guilty pleasure 

[kimoomik 66]

lol more people gave a + for trooper rmx asfor foe trooper 
a few nice maps gone but a lot of crap will be removed and the server list is clearer

[Shone 42]

THANKS GOD! 

This looks like an AWESOME map list, i hope it will be soon, while we are still young.

btw. Don't touch standard maps! (No more remakes!) They are big because they supose to be big, leave them the way they are!

 

 

[ZEE.WONK 133]

There be some new maps to? like KS-Oldcity for example.

Good map, There still be same maps played over and over '>.<

[kimoomik 66]

hell no, not thiscrap
but i even would suggest that we increase to 50 oder 60 maps with a poll like the removepoll and the best 7 or 17 maps get added to the server (without the maps which was removed)

[Peterie 93]

I'm very much for having this setup with the tool joey mentioned in the other topic with 45 regular maps divided in map pools and each month 5 new maps to try.

[joeycracknl 50]

I kinda stopped toying with that since the FFD got cleanup the overview is pretty good.

It also seems that after a map has been finished and the end game scoreboard shows up, and after that the endgame mapvote, there some issues like the scoreboard glitching out, and if you open the main menu you can't close it. While opening midgame vote is without issues.

Only found out a bit late lol, they originally made for UT99 maybe thats why.

I could send you a 400mb 7z that i used in that YouTube example video.

It a server file made for testing a bit, it has 2 or 3 versions of the mapvote, with some maps etc to test it if you are interested.

Maybe in future i go test some more ut99 mapvote scripts as there are allot

[Shone 42]

Just incrase delay of votting (5-6 maps before you can vote for the same map) and everything will be cool. No need for more maps, there are already 40+. 

Keep it simple, thats the best way!

[kimoomik 66]

ilu, its already on 8

[Shone 42]

I am not sure about that Or i have so bad luck that i always enter when RW is on ?  

[kimoomik 66]

we had already a thread about that, sleepyhead  but yes rapid is gtay so much

[sullivaN. 9]

Server isn't working anymore. When I enter I cant choose side or anything.

[kimoomik 66]

same for me, same thing like yesterday but without autoreconnects

[Thomas 312]

This should now be fixed.

[kimoomik 66]

yep works (Y)

[Pillarist 12]

Wow even here is a map of mine from 2008 rofl!!

Google ftw

[kimoomik 66]

On 28.10.2016 at 8:09 PM, Pillarist said:

Wow even here is a map of mine from 2008 rofl!!

Google ftw

which map?

[Pillarist 12]

16 uren geleden, kimoomik zei:

which map?

TO-Karaganda